tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32065791.post117104753080764488..comments2023-12-06T01:41:01.494-07:00Comments on Mo Betta META - A Kewl Sleeper Cell of Serial Blog Wreckers: Meta Meta Mo MetaUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger85125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32065791.post-1171163028197139732007-02-10T20:03:00.000-07:002007-02-10T20:03:00.000-07:00Damn folks...this is absurd. Martin....let it go b...Damn folks...this is absurd. Martin....let it go bud. I tried over and over again to wish you well and just move on. You don't want to do that for whatever reason. I will not post it here folks but again I came home to an email from Martin, Another accounting of his side of the story. It was long and just resiterated all he said here and at his own site.<BR/><BR/>I have to tall you Martin, I too did not leave because you banned Spider but because you didn't ban Tracy. Taht woman not only berated two of your longterm poster but she went over to Dkos to air the dirty laundry, leaving so much out and garnering sympathy from those that don't really know the history.Just read your "new rules" pretty ridiculous imho. Someone can call someone a fucking pig, I hope you fucking die or you are a pyscho spoiled bitch four times before they are banned? Glad I left. This will be the last I post here too. Too much bad energy.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32065791.post-1171158878638752602007-02-10T18:54:00.000-07:002007-02-10T18:54:00.000-07:00Oh super, sometimes it ends up like this, and when...Oh super, sometimes it ends up like this, and when it does, it truly bites hard. I've been there too. People just always aren't as they appear to be when we become attached to them. <BR/><BR/>It's pretty hard for me to believe the behaviors I'm seeing from Martin too. I never guessed he'd go this far off the rails. <BR/><BR/>But don't you dare beat your head or rip at any part of yourself on this one, because you know what? It really isn't about you at all. Or Spider, or anyone else here, not really. <BR/><BR/>It's about what whatever the hell is going on with Boo, and there's not one damned thing any of us can do about that, expect protect ourselves from the effects of it. <BR/><BR/>We left. We moved on. He followed and chose to keep battering at this here. He isn't listening to anything anyone is saying. <BR/><BR/>I honestly don't know anything that can make this insane thing stop but refusing to respond to any of it at all. And that is very very hard to do, I know. <BR/><BR/>Breathe, buddy, breath.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32065791.post-1171157456332403632007-02-10T18:30:00.000-07:002007-02-10T18:30:00.000-07:00Now that 'deep throat' has outed himself, I retrac...Now that 'deep throat' has outed himself, I retract my statement that he was playing both sides against the middle, because I'm totally confident super wouldn't do that. period.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32065791.post-1171156968514653042007-02-10T18:22:00.000-07:002007-02-10T18:22:00.000-07:00Deepthroat here. What a ridiculous bunch of useles...Deepthroat here. <BR/><BR/>What a ridiculous bunch of useless and psychotic bullshit we have here.<BR/><BR/>Martin, I've given you the courtesy of replying to three of the four emails you've sent to me regarding this witchunt you've engaged in. And now you wanna target me too because I've been open with you and you think you have some kind of fucking evidence that I lied to you, lied to your community, this community, and protected another liar all along.<BR/>I call bullshit. In each reply I tried to redirect you back to the root of the problem. Your mishandling of the blowup last week. But no, you're attempting to blur the lines by making it about spiderleaf supposedly lying and noew me lying. And now, on top of all that, you offer your forgiveness if I come clean?! I don't need your goddamned forgiveness because there's nothing to be forgiven for. Yeah, originally back in July I was upset that you asked me whether I told Catnip about your private life. You say now that you only put a Catnip tag on the email so I suppose that now you'll say that I'm like a little kid who admitted to something by way of outrage before I knew what I was in trouble for. Whatever. You have a fucking angle for everything. In my last reply to you today I said that AG and ask weren't involved in any sniping at you about all of the bullshit with MT in July. Saying that doesn't mean that there <I>was</I> any sniping by anyone else. I just thought I'd get those two guys off your hit list too. But I see now that you think it implies that there was sniping. I'll tell you again, publically, that the subject came up, briefly, and that was all. <BR/><BR/>So now we come to this last blowout involving Tracy and me. You go after Spiderleaf for posting the picture, which btw I've told her I wasn't pleased about, and as I see you turning the subject off of your friend and how you utterly failed in your responsibility to protect all of your members, I decided to say that I couldn't remember if it was me or not, hoping you would back off of Spiderleaf. And as I've told you privately, I knew when I posted that that it would damage your trust in me. I did it for that reason, to protect spiderleaf, and because I began wondering if it was me, even though, as I've said, I couldn't imagine me talking to Catnip about anything like that. And just to clear my conscience I checked my email, three fucking times. There is no email, anywhere, that came from me to Catnip regarding any of that relationship stuff. Somehow though, you've apparently decided that my finding no email, or changing my story by saying that I couldn't remember, is one, somehow lying, and two, not only saying that spiderleaf was the one, but that I knew she was the one and protected her all along. I tried to protect her, yes. But I didn't lie about anything. Nor do I admit to any such thing in any of the replies I sent to you. And I've continued to say that I don't know who the fuck it is. Only Catnip and that person know. If it was me, there's no record of it anywhere. But I guess the only way I could prove that is to let you look at my email account.<BR/><BR/>Could it be spiderleaf? Yup. It could be, but I don't know that. I have no way to know that. Could it be Nanette? Yup. It could be, but I have no way to know it. Could it have been me? Yup, I guess it could, but there's no record of it and I've never talked to Catnip in my life. So, looks like it's not me.<BR/><BR/>So here's what I'll do. You are released from your pledge of privacy. Go ahead and publish whatever you have. Nowhere do I admit to lying to anyone or protecting someone I know to be lying. Even though a couple of people will have their feelings hurt by some things said in those replies, I'll risk that to once and for all get you to back the fuck off. Somehow though, I doubt you will.<BR/><BR/>My intentions in all of this have always been pure. I tried to remain friends with people on all sides of this. If that's evidence of playing the middle, then blindfold me now and start fucking firing. As far as I'm concerned you've abused my good nature and desire to see an end to this. That, and that alone is on you. Now, you'll excuse me while I go and beat my fucking head against a wall and rip myself a new one for ever getting involved in any online relationships and friendships. It damn sure isn't worth the heartache.supersolinghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13333453162319754933noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32065791.post-1171156683779111522007-02-10T18:18:00.000-07:002007-02-10T18:18:00.000-07:00Ditto to everything Blueneck said.Booman, I didn't...Ditto to everything Blueneck said.<BR/><BR/>Booman, I didn't leave the Pond because Spiderleaf was banned. I left because Tracy wasn't. You made a simple rule and didn't enforce it because the offender was a personal friend. That is not acceptable to me.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32065791.post-1171156130146251162007-02-10T18:08:00.000-07:002007-02-10T18:08:00.000-07:00gee, i thought i left a comment here yesterday but...gee, i thought i left a comment here yesterday but i don't see it. <BR/><BR/>guess my puter punked out when i saved (again).<BR/><BR/>thanks for the link back atcha, catnip, and thanks for the nice welcome to my readers.skippyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14962670107823271639noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32065791.post-1171154997727054712007-02-10T17:49:00.000-07:002007-02-10T17:49:00.000-07:00Good lord! I take a break from blogtopia (yes, ski...Good lord! I take a break from blogtopia (yes, skippy, I know), and what do I find but indications of serious frogpond paranoia. <BR/><BR/>Let's get something straight, Martin, et al.: there is no conspiracy going on here. No one here is out to get you, or out to get anyone else who frequents your blog. There may be some curt and abrasive criticism here, but big whoop. No one is being "threatened" by anyone here.<BR/><BR/>Take your own advice and let it go. It's really for your own good.Don Duritohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18204140156288885474noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32065791.post-1171154488231384852007-02-10T17:41:00.000-07:002007-02-10T17:41:00.000-07:00For the last time! Armando outed DD, while Marisca...For the last time! Armando outed DD, while Mariscat was popping popcorn on her bunsen burner -- get it straight -- it's been months and months of watching this serial soap opera, As The Eyes Roll. Where's the Big Finish, already?<BR/><BR/>YolandaAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32065791.post-1171152080169911432007-02-10T17:01:00.000-07:002007-02-10T17:01:00.000-07:00BooMan:As for the rest of you, you had no way of k...BooMan:<BR/><BR/><I>As for the rest of you, you had no way of knowing for sure who was telling the truth. I'm sad that my word was not taken at face value, but then I know that many of you were upset with me and didn't truly understand what this dispute was about.</I><BR/><BR/>You spread the dispute over so many comments that I think that everybody knew exactly what the dispute was/is about. I sure did, much, much, much, much more than I ever wanted or cared to.<BR/><BR/><I>For me, the issue of site administration and dealing with MT was a separate issue. For you, they were intertwined.</I><BR/><BR/>That's precisely the problem, there, BooMan, that you never saw the issues as being one and the same. It was <I>always</I> about administering the site in a fair-minded way. It was about the fact that you would not enforce your own rules, even when broken repeatedly and egregiously, if the target was somone other than yourself. I still stand by my assertion that the only way anyone has ever been banned from your site is if they <I>personally piss YOU off</I>. And if someone on your site has a personal relationship with you that you deem special, you will go to any lengths to roll out the compassion in spite of the fact that they have pissed off <I>multiple</I> users in ways that are much more egregious in the eyes of a rational third party than the personal-to-you offenses that you banned or dismissed others for. That's really all fine and good, though, if you want everyone to view your blog in that light. That is, if you were to put it in the FAQ that way. <BR/><BR/>I noticed a comment or two over there shortly after the two big meta diaries that made the rec list scrolled off about how those of us who were trying to come up with rulez and procedurez were trying to take over your blog. I resented that because I think that most of us were trying to come up with a way to help you, not to take over, and the rulez themselves acknowledged your ultimate supremacy. I think that a lot of us understood that you were in a tough position and we wanted to give you a shield that you could hide behind if necessary in the future. What will you do in the future if one of your philly blogger friends comes on your site and slings shit at some of your loyal visitors, for example? Will it be more of the same? Will that be a separate issue from administering the site?Compassion for my good buddies and to hell with everybody else? If so, then I stand by my assertion that all references to 'community' should be stricken from the official site materials and that you should make it clear, in a Kos-like fashion, that what you say goes and to hell with what anyone else thinks. But to let people think that it is a community where everyone is expected to behave by two simple rules and then not enforce them fairly is to ask for more of the same problems in the future. This will be a problem no matter how many levels of banishment you institute. I don't mind playing any game if I know what the rules are. But when the rules change arbitrarily, or the ump is blind every time my team needs a rule enforced, it's not a game I want to be in.<BR/><BR/>I did just check the recent post you put up about a committee being a lot of trouble to deal with. I understand that. But I'm not buying the argument that it would cause more problems than it would solve. That's why it would have an uneven number of members. The rulez, where ambiguous, would be subject to a vote, and that's where ambiguity is resolved and that's the rulez. Any game with rulez is gonna have a bad call now and then or someone is gonna claim that all the calls go in favor of the other team, but a panel of refs usually gets it right in most games I've ever seen or played in. And in the blog-world, we have the benefit of total and complete 'instant replay' (unless a diary is taken down by the author). As it is, and as it will apparently remain, unnamed and generally unknown 'administrators' are supposed to patrol the site. And I suppose one of the administrators is someone who we all now know is your girlfriend. That seems to me like it's gonna make things worse, not better, as the <I>personal</I> rule enforcement thing goes.<BR/><BR/><I>But I cannot allow someone to inpugn my character, make accusations about me that needlessly involve my girlfriend, lie to me, accuse me of lying, and get away with it.</I><BR/><BR/>BooMan, your character, for me at least, has never been about any he said/ she said stuff. In spite of the fact that you took what was said very personally, most of us, me certainly, couldn't care less about it. I don't care whether your girlfriend has a relationship with someone who needs to be banned. I don't care whether you have a personal relationship with someone who needs to be banned. I don't care if someone lied to you about when they found out that someone had a personal relationship with someone who needs to be banned. Your character is impugned when you show obvious partiality and claim not to be partial. That's the crux of the issue, I think, even for some people who have not analyzed it all the way down to that. I get the feeling that you think if you convince everybody that she lied and you told the truth, you will be vindicated, but that's a mis-direction from the real problem of underlying unfairness, regardless of the claim about its origins and intricacies. <B>If no unfairness was evident all allegations of <I>un</I>fairness would immediately be rendered totally ridiculous</B>. And just to be perfectly clear, for me, it isn't about taking you at your word or not, it's just that I don't give a shit one way or the other. People are people and some will have differing memories, period. I have no idea if differing memories are a result of carelessness or maliciousness from either side, I just don't see it as a big issue, from out here in the blogoverse where I sit.<BR/><BR/><I>That is why I have been obsessive about this. </I><BR/><BR/>When you became obsessed, you embarked on a path that did more to destroy your own character than any accusation could have. When you look into the abyss, dude, the abyss looks back. Don't turn yourself into a monster to fight a monster, perceived or real. I would counsel you to ponder on that. If you hear nothing other than that out of all that I have cared to say, I hope that is it.<BR/><BR/>And finally, I think you outed your relationship when you shared it with whatever small group of bloggers you chose to. It is impossible for you to keep major developments in your life out of the blogosphere, because in a real way you ARE the blogosphere, you LIVE the blogosphere. You will ALWAYS have to deal with that if you intend to be a non-anonymous blogger. Accusations and intimations and insinuations about your personal motivations will always be 'fair game' whether they are truly fair or not. I foresee a time when you will spend hours of each day tracking down accusations and trying to disprove them if you choose to pursue that path.<BR/><BR/>P.S. whoever deep throat is, they are playing both sides against the middle and should not be trusted by either side, imo<BR/><BR/>P.P.S. DD outed himself, but no one should have outed him further. Imo, it's sort of like if a reporter calls a CIA agent and tells them the name of a covert operation and the details of it, the CIA agent should neither confirm nor deny the reporters assertions. Making a leak worse because it was already leaked doesn't make it a good thing to do. Having said that, I really don't know diddly-squat about DD and/or marisacat.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32065791.post-1171151271459832622007-02-10T16:47:00.000-07:002007-02-10T16:47:00.000-07:00Ok, I am stray roots. All I can say is that I thi...Ok, I am stray roots. All I can say is that I think it was silly to call for new rules to redress the imbalances over there, given the fact that the real problem is inconsistent enforcement of existing ones. Note his new rules would give Tracy second third forth and fifth chances but Mariscat would get unilaterally banned.<BR/><BR/>Anyway, I don't hate BooMan even though I think there is inconsistent enforcement and there will continue to be, and I only had one spat with Tracy over Israel. I think those are part of life. I am used to those.<BR/><BR/>BooMan, DD linked to all those things in his own profile so this is really overblown. I don't know why you can't admit that. I really did see this as kossacks ganging up on Mariscat and I still do.Dameocrathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08697717088521051559noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32065791.post-1171150295197942392007-02-10T16:31:00.000-07:002007-02-10T16:31:00.000-07:00That's great. It sucks to be deep throat. Caught...That's great. It sucks to be deep throat. Caught in their own web of deceit they can't admit to you what they admitted to me without you feeling betrayed. They cannot admit it publicly and face everyone here, they already has to do deal with the deep sense of betrayal caused for me and CG. And they still haven't released from my pledge of confidentiality.<BR/><BR/>Sorry. This is not my fault. I can't do anything for Deep Throat. They screwed themselves and it hurts me to even contemplate how they are feeling.<BR/><BR/>I care about Deep Throat, still. And I am a forgiving person when someone comes clean. But you can't just come clean to me. You have to come clean to everyone. Then there can be forgiveness. And I will forgive you.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32065791.post-1171148981639549782007-02-10T16:09:00.000-07:002007-02-10T16:09:00.000-07:00Martin, I've talked to your "deep throat" and ther...Martin, I've talked to your "deep throat" and there was no such "admission of guilt" or any nonsense you are claiming. And the record doesn't reflect it.<BR/><BR/>You need to get a grip buddy; you aren't Fitz and I'm not Libby. I'm just a freakin' Canuck who was a member of your community.<BR/><BR/>And I do want to say something. In retrospect I would not have posted the link to the picture with the comment about the balance of power being in her favour, but I did so because of what CG said in response to the vicious, abusive comments Tracy left. It was ridiculous and I felt the need to say something... a LOT of people have said they had the same thoughts as me. I just said it. I love supersoling and alohaleezy and I was APPALLED Tracy's behaviour would be tolerated by an admin. I would have apologized for that after I had calmed down had you dealt with the Tracy issue and not gone on a witch hunt against me... which continues to this day.spiderleafhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03324410088693600557noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32065791.post-1171146796126697272007-02-10T15:33:00.000-07:002007-02-10T15:33:00.000-07:00When do we all get the matching leather jackets wi...<I>When do we all get the matching leather jackets with spiders on the back?</I><BR/><BR/>After you make 100 comments. Then it'll cost you $99 plus shipping and handling. Limited time offer.catniphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10444186590009089070noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32065791.post-1171146250152732472007-02-10T15:24:00.000-07:002007-02-10T15:24:00.000-07:00When do we all get the matching leather jackets wi...When do we all get the matching leather jackets with spiders on the back?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32065791.post-1171145961115485172007-02-10T15:19:00.000-07:002007-02-10T15:19:00.000-07:00From my deleted Meet Up Madness diary at BooMan (w...From my deleted Meet Up Madness diary at BooMan (which I deleted due to fear of Tracy btw).<BR/><BR/><I>CookTing and I got a late start on the day and then got stuck in traffic on the GW bridge so we didn't make it to the festival until <B>after 3pm</B>... which meant that we didn't get to spend too much time with ask, curly and the kids or Arthur, but it was great spending as much time as we did with everyone!<BR/><BR/>...<BR/><BR/>Ask, Curly and the kids are also fantastic people and I really wish we'd had more time to hang out and get to know each other...</I><BR/><BR/>I am actually furious right now. Ask, Curly, Arthur and super were allegedly all talking about you guys dating all day and yet no one stepped in to correct the record when you claimed I was the "only" one who could have known?? And ask is claiming that I was part of that conversation when I spent barely 10mins with them as they were heading to the beach and dinner? And that he and I spoke to CG at the same time when both he and AG had already left for the day when I spoke to CG? I didn't have enough time to get to know them yet we had time to discuss your relationship in detail? Are you all fucking nuts?<BR/><BR/>This is disturbing Martin and even more so that you are repeating it instead of railing against them for talking about your relationship and then not correcting the record with me. That is total bullshit and I can't believe ask would stand behind those statements when he knows that I was there for such a tiny bit before they left.<BR/><BR/>This is the last thing I am saying on the matter Martin and if you keep polluting these threads with your smears against me I will delete your comments. Enough. The only other thing you are entitled to say on this site is "I'm sorry spider".spiderleafhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03324410088693600557noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32065791.post-1171145738434292642007-02-10T15:15:00.000-07:002007-02-10T15:15:00.000-07:00I'd like to welcome skippy's readers. Thanks for t...I'd like to welcome <B>skippy's readers</B>. Thanks for the link, skippy!<BR/><BR/>If you'd like to talk about the blogroll issue, which is a big concern of skippy's, please feel free to ignore the rest of the noise and leave a comment.catniphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10444186590009089070noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32065791.post-1171143437079662572007-02-10T14:37:00.000-07:002007-02-10T14:37:00.000-07:00He doesn't care about his integrity. He said as mu...He doesn't care about his integrity. He said as much yesterday in this thread (see above):<BR/><BR/><I>I have a thick skin so I can handle having a site dedicated to picking apart my posts, disparaging my character, and discussing my private life, but others cant even deal with the potential threat of that.</I>catniphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10444186590009089070noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32065791.post-1171142339122207692007-02-10T14:18:00.000-07:002007-02-10T14:18:00.000-07:00I still think it was Rove who really outed Valerie...I still think it was Rove who really outed Valerie Plame, but I guess we'll never really know.<BR/><BR/>And I'm pretty sure Marilyn Monroe was murdered.<BR/><BR/>And that the CIA killed Robert Kennedy.catniphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10444186590009089070noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32065791.post-1171142162778814982007-02-10T14:16:00.000-07:002007-02-10T14:16:00.000-07:00Speaking of damaging ones character or integrity,y...Speaking of damaging ones character or integrity,you seem determined to do it to yourself, by publically carrying on with this ridiculous, juvenile obsession over some she-said thing that happened months ago. How old ARE you, anyway?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32065791.post-1171141468558603772007-02-10T14:04:00.000-07:002007-02-10T14:04:00.000-07:00spin, spin, little spider spin...Martin, people ar...spin, spin, little spider spin...<BR/><BR/>Martin, people are going to believe what they want to believe. Catnip, spiderleaf, and the unidentified emailer know the truth, and are apparently fine with leaving things the way they are at the expense of your integrity. Don't give them any more of it.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32065791.post-1171141137130990452007-02-10T13:58:00.001-07:002007-02-10T13:58:00.001-07:00As for the rest of you, you had no way of knowing ...As for the rest of you, you had no way of knowing for sure who was telling the truth. I'm sad that my word was not taken at face value, but then I know that many of you were upset with me and didn't truly understand what this dispute was about.<BR/><BR/>For me, the issue of site administration and dealing with MT was a separate issue. For you, they were intertwined.<BR/><BR/>But I cannot allow someone to inpugn my character, make accusations about me that needlessly involve my girlfriend, lie to me, accuse me of lying, and get away with it.<BR/><BR/>That is why I have been obsessive about this. <BR/><BR/>Spiderleaf is not the only person that lied about me. She had help. She had someone throwing sand in your faces this whole time who knew for certain that my story has substantially true and that her story was completely false.<BR/><BR/>And they ought to step forward now and tell the full story.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32065791.post-1171141124533655192007-02-10T13:58:00.000-07:002007-02-10T13:58:00.000-07:00Is that you, Patrick Fitzgerald?Is that you, Patrick Fitzgerald?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32065791.post-1171141010498281242007-02-10T13:56:00.000-07:002007-02-10T13:56:00.000-07:00I'm glad ask spoke on the phone with CG. Consideri...I'm glad ask spoke on the phone with CG. Considering I didn't show up at the event until 5 mins before ask and curly left for the day I don't really think the subject of you guys dating was a hot topic. I asked if you were coming and everyone said no, that you and Chris weren't going to make it because CG's son had poison ivy. Then we took pictures and ask left. <BR/><BR/>Then AG left after we talked politics.<BR/><BR/>The only other person I hung out with there was supersoling and it was on his phone that I spoke briefly to CG as I told you many times.<BR/><BR/>Not sure what your problem is, but I haven't been lying. You accused me of telling catnip, I said I didn't. Then you started changing the subject into what I knew when. I told you I suspected, but did not <I>know for sure</I> until I saw the photo. This is true, no matter what you want to believe. <BR/><BR/>Whatever Martin, this is all quite juvenile of you and your own behaviour has led to all of this conflict. I wish you hadn't banned me as I had no interest in leaving the site, I liked the community, but you have and we're moving on.spiderleafhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03324410088693600557noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32065791.post-1171140183526801112007-02-10T13:43:00.000-07:002007-02-10T13:43:00.000-07:00I've already had it confirmed from people that wer...I've already had it confirmed from people that were there that the specific topic of me dating CG and her friendship with Tracy (but not mine) was a topic of discussion that day.<BR/><BR/>The phone call is now irrelevant. Of course, I did talk to you on the phone...that is not something I would forget. But since I have had it confirmed by parties that were there that the topic was discussed, as I suspected, I no longer need anyone to make inferences from a phone call about what you reasaonbly should have inferred. I know now that the issue was specifically discussed that day by you with the group.<BR/><BR/>So, point one:<BR/><BR/>I asked you when you first knew that CG and I were dating and that it might be causing a conflict of interest for me. You said you had suspicions but you didn't know until you saw Manny's pciture.<BR/><BR/>I knew that to be a lie based on the phone call, so I asked you about the phone call.<BR/><BR/>You swore up and down you didn't have a phone call, that I should check my phone records to prove it. I told you I did not talk to you on my phone but on CG's phone. That you and ask both spoke on the phone with CG is now confirmed. But even if you were right that you talked to CG and not to me, we now have a firsthand witness that has confirmed that it my relationship was not only discussed by discussed in the exact manner of speculation that led to the email from catnip alleging the precise 'talking point'.<BR/><BR/>In other words, you first formed the opinion about a conflict of interest in July, as I alleged. A week later catnip made that allegation to me (and I have alleged a direct connention that now has circumstantial evidence to support it).<BR/><BR/>You then brought this issue up again when you saw the picture of Manny's. You posted a link to it and presented to people that this was a eureka moment for you and that you now understood my conflict of interest.<BR/><BR/>I challenged your version that this was a new theory to you and you accused ME of lying.<BR/><BR/>Then you carried on and led other's to douby my credibility and even to sympathisize with you.<BR/><BR/>I am hoping that the person that has been lying to help you cover your story but who has now confessed to me their deceit both to me and to the community will be enough of a person to step forward and back up my words.<BR/><BR/>So far they have hidden behind the anonymity of private emails. They know who they are and they know how badly they have wronged me and they know what's right and what they should do to make it up to me and restore my credibility to the people that have been deceived, in part, by their efforts.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32065791.post-1171139137990233402007-02-10T13:25:00.000-07:002007-02-10T13:25:00.000-07:00oh, one last thing and then I get back to the real...oh, one last thing and then I get back to the real world. This whole thing is too funny.<BR/><BR/>BooMan, in one of your bizarre comments here you said I had to "know" you and CG were dating because you were driving up from Philly together. <BR/><BR/>Since Chris was also driving up with you both and then cancelled when CG's kid had poison ivy are you saying you were dating him too? I'm so confused.spiderleafhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03324410088693600557noreply@blogger.com