tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32065791.post117173685295413078..comments2023-12-06T01:41:01.494-07:00Comments on Mo Betta META - A Kewl Sleeper Cell of Serial Blog Wreckers: tale of two worlds - which Left are you on?Unknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger54125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32065791.post-1171908446669119592007-02-19T11:07:00.000-07:002007-02-19T11:07:00.000-07:00The Peruvian novelist Mario Vargas Llosa [a right-...<I>The Peruvian novelist Mario Vargas Llosa [a right-winger] called Mexico "the land of the perfect dictatorship." It is a dictatorship that has been created, propped up, anointed and rewarded by the US government for nearly a century, ever since Black Jack Pershing busted across the border in 1917, vowing to bring back Pancho Villa "in an iron cage."<BR/><BR/>We have logged their forests, drained their oil fields, fixed their elections, threatened to seize their treasury, send them our sweatshops, our drug financiers and maquiladoras. For the last decade or so NAFTA has been at work, grinding away at the Mexico's poor and indigenous people. In return, we have sealed our border against the "scourge of brown immigrants."</I> - <A HREF="http://www.counterpunch.org/stclair02172007.html" REL="nofollow">Jeffrey St Clair</A><BR/><BR/>Because of course we don't El Paso to become like "them." & Juarez' poverty is 'cuz they have corruption unlike us. Um, yea . . .Arcturushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07060173224625105511noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32065791.post-1171819467749419462007-02-18T10:24:00.000-07:002007-02-18T10:24:00.000-07:00yeppers, super "racist" & "jingim" are certainly i...yeppers, super <BR/><BR/>"racist" & "jingim" are certainly inflammatory words. <BR/><BR/>something nezua wrote me last night is more where I'd like to be focused (if it's at all possible now to corral this into a discussion):<BR/><BR/>fuck the term "Racist." who cares? <BR/><BR/><BR/><B>if we can define what it is exactly that is rotten in the doings and thinkings of those we call "racist," we are looking deeper, closer to the problem...</B><BR/><BR/>& james, thank you for that book cite! I hadn't heard of it & it looks right up m,y alley - thx man!Arcturushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07060173224625105511noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32065791.post-1171818640127978542007-02-18T10:10:00.000-07:002007-02-18T10:10:00.000-07:00Yes!!Yes!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32065791.post-1171817788113128402007-02-18T09:56:00.000-07:002007-02-18T09:56:00.000-07:00Arcturus,my apologies. I do see the racism in exce...Arcturus,<BR/>my apologies. I <I>do</I> see the racism in exceptionalist speak. I think I expressed that. My initial reaction was an overreaction as to whether BooMan is himself racist. But it was more a personal defense of him, than what he wrote or whether you directly called him racist or not. And no, I'm not doing it on purpose as a diversionary tactic. It was just a remnant of loyalty, which I'm sure will be laughed at by him and those who support him calling me a liar and saying that I've privately admitted to lying, which I have not.<BR/>I understand your post, though I thought it was over the top somewhat. I'm not trying to undermine or change the focus of your broader message, which was that esceptionalism is inherantly racist.<BR/><BR/>Have I now sufficiently explained my way out of that self imposed box that I put myself in?supersolinghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13333453162319754933noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32065791.post-1171817087247732522007-02-18T09:44:00.000-07:002007-02-18T09:44:00.000-07:00If we aren't exceptional by comparison then why ar...If we aren't exceptional by comparison then why are 12 million of them usually risking their lives to live in this country illegally? Duh! Sometimes you make sense and sometimes you just refuse to acknowledge the facts you don't like.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32065791.post-1171816605564819352007-02-18T09:36:00.000-07:002007-02-18T09:36:00.000-07:00One more thing: I'm not saying that you're intenti...One more thing: I'm not saying that you're intentionally doing this, but turning the question into 'is he or isn't he a racist?' & making the conversation <I>about</I> that is one of the oldest diversionary tactics to avoid having open & honest discussions about racism. About what is actually said. About <I>why</I> that is harmful - to people & societies.Arcturushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07060173224625105511noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32065791.post-1171816136790502212007-02-18T09:28:00.000-07:002007-02-18T09:28:00.000-07:00dear super - Don't let anonymous wankers get to ya...dear super - Don't let anonymous wankers get to ya.<BR/><BR/>I see you're still saying that I called Martin a racist. While I expect that from teh BT who haven't bothered to actually read what I wrote, I'm puzzled by your repetitions. IS it simply that you think my distinguishing his essence as a person as it were (is he or isn't he a racist? boring & insignificant question, imo), & the language he employed in those grafs is a BS one? <BR/><BR/>And a second qestion for ya. You see the jingoism, or exceptionalist fantasy there. Doesn't exceptionalism itself depend & maintain itself on a backbone of racist belief: that we're better than others, that we can help those pooor dark peoples of the earth, etc? Isn't instituionalized racism built on such belief?Arcturushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07060173224625105511noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32065791.post-1171812641129899352007-02-18T08:30:00.000-07:002007-02-18T08:30:00.000-07:00thanks super..bye byethanks super..bye byeAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32065791.post-1171812384700777882007-02-18T08:26:00.000-07:002007-02-18T08:26:00.000-07:00You're right, I don't know who you are afterall. B...You're right, I don't know who you are afterall. But I do know what you seek to do here. Nice try and I'll give you an extra credit and a little sticky silver star for creativity. But it won't fly.<BR/><BR/>Leezy,<BR/>that ocean bluff is calling :o)supersolinghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13333453162319754933noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32065791.post-1171812157887572122007-02-18T08:22:00.000-07:002007-02-18T08:22:00.000-07:00Anonyass..Paranoid? I just know what I read by soj...Anonyass..Paranoid? I just know what I read by soj. Here's a reminder.<BR/><BR/>Re: Meta Jesus (1.00 / 5) <BR/>Don't ever underestimate these fuckers. They are fucking vicious. If one of them shows up where I am in the United States I will fucking shoot them. And I'm a pacifist. I'll be in Europe in about 30 days and good luck finding me there, fuckers.<BR/>I don't have a problem with someone disagreeing with me and you sure don't have to like me (or Boo or anyone else). But when you take it to the "next level" and start endangering totally innocent people, that's when it goes too far. These "paparazzi" are freaking psychos.<BR/><BR/>The difference between Boo and Britney Spears is she has the BUCKS to hire bodyguards etc. Freaking loons. It's just a fucking blog you freaks! <BR/><BR/>Night and day you can find me Flogging the Simian<BR/><BR/>by soj on Sat Feb 17th, 2007 at 10:20:31 PM EST <BR/><BR/>If you cannot debate properly but only call names then go back to Booman(miniKos)where that is acceptable practice. I take very seriously someone threatening to shoot anyone. As far as I am concerned this should be reported to the police.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32065791.post-1171811215422115142007-02-18T08:06:00.000-07:002007-02-18T08:06:00.000-07:00Supersoling I don't think you have a clue who I am...Supersoling I don't think you have a clue who I am because a mea culpa isn't anything I'm seeking here. That is the last thing I would ever expect to find here. If you want to clue me in though as to who you think I am and who needs a mea culpa I'll listen.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32065791.post-1171811053682706572007-02-18T08:04:00.000-07:002007-02-18T08:04:00.000-07:00Alohaleezy,You might want to check your paranoid m...Alohaleezy,<BR/><BR/>You might want to check your paranoid meter today because what was written and what you have turned it into doesn't even fit in the same universe.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32065791.post-1171810372757985402007-02-18T07:52:00.000-07:002007-02-18T07:52:00.000-07:00Oh my Freaken God! Soj is threatening to kill peop...Oh my Freaken God! Soj is threatening to kill people and that is ok with Martin? Jesus! I tried to post there and guess what? He will allow me to sign in but not comment. Hmmph! So he lets people like MilitaryTracy go off and Soj can say she is going to shoot anyone that posts here but we cannot respond at that poor excuse of a progressive blog? God, what a joke. To think that I spent two years posting there. I am looking into a lawsuit to get my name removed from being associated with BT. And Anonymous poster...grow a spine.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32065791.post-1171809926221624492007-02-18T07:45:00.000-07:002007-02-18T07:45:00.000-07:00Ah, I see where and who you are now. I've explaine...Ah, I see where and who you are now. I've explained myself as much as I'm going to. Sorry that it doesn't pass the test. But there will be no mea culpas.supersolinghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13333453162319754933noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32065791.post-1171809530947481962007-02-18T07:38:00.000-07:002007-02-18T07:38:00.000-07:00Maybe putting your name behind your words doesn't ...Maybe putting your name behind your words doesn't count for much anymore.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32065791.post-1171809142278497842007-02-18T07:32:00.000-07:002007-02-18T07:32:00.000-07:00I'm talking to you, and any other anonymous coward...I'm talking to you, and any other anonymous coward, not any imagined obsessed crowd. I have no control over what others post here or how they choose to spend their time. It's a fucking free for all. Get it? I judge each post/poster individually. You might have noticed that I wasn't pleased with BooMan as racist. But at least that person put his name behind his words.supersolinghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13333453162319754933noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32065791.post-1171808508507286722007-02-18T07:21:00.000-07:002007-02-18T07:21:00.000-07:00Maybe it's just not worth the effort to type in on...Maybe it's just not worth the effort to type in one's name here...of course, anyone who doesn't want the obsessed crowd here following them all over the internet and cutting and pasting everything they say to your site would earn the title of paranoid from whoever's turn it is to be Bill Frist today.<BR/><BR/>Maybe you should try meeting your own standards for others' behavior for a change. Just a thought.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32065791.post-1171808143355744752007-02-18T07:15:00.000-07:002007-02-18T07:15:00.000-07:00You start posting with your name behind it and you...You start posting with your name behind it and you'll be given more creedence. Otherwise, stfu.supersolinghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13333453162319754933noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32065791.post-1171806692426281972007-02-18T06:51:00.000-07:002007-02-18T06:51:00.000-07:00I can't believe the behavior you jackasses excuse ...I can't believe the behavior you jackasses excuse and justify in yourselves while calling for the discipline of someone else displaying behavior that you don't like. Nobody said America love it or leave it either but the people here will morph whatever is tossed at them into the rhetoric best suited to justify their sick offensive selves.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32065791.post-1171804817281130112007-02-18T06:20:00.000-07:002007-02-18T06:20:00.000-07:00"There is absolutely nothing racist or jingoistic ...<I>"There is absolutely nothing racist or jingoistic in what he's saying here. <BR/><BR/>If you want to live like those across the river there, go right ahead. "</I><BR/>Anonymous Coward<BR/><BR/>...in other words, America, love it or leave it.supersolinghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13333453162319754933noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32065791.post-1171786482006000212007-02-18T01:14:00.000-07:002007-02-18T01:14:00.000-07:00Yup. Them streets iz paved with gold in the Land o...Yup. Them streets iz paved with gold in the Land of Rape and Honey.Don Duritohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18204140156288885474noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32065791.post-1171786185293441542007-02-18T01:09:00.000-07:002007-02-18T01:09:00.000-07:00Oh c'mon James. Everybody knows there's no poverty...Oh c'mon James. Everybody knows there's no poverty in the good ole US of A. That just happens "across the river" and, if you're not careful, it's going to spread from across that river real soon.catniphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10444186590009089070noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32065791.post-1171784375801156142007-02-18T00:39:00.000-07:002007-02-18T00:39:00.000-07:00Another anonymous straw argument. How clever.[yawN...Another anonymous straw argument. How clever.<BR/><BR/>[yawN]Don Duritohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18204140156288885474noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32065791.post-1171783964790224862007-02-18T00:32:00.000-07:002007-02-18T00:32:00.000-07:00Obviously you're never been to Juarez and El Paso....Obviously you're never been to Juarez and El Paso. I know exactly what Booman is talking about, having driven past there many many times. The poverty across the river is pure squalor. <BR/><BR/>There is absolutely nothing racist or jingoistic in what he's saying here. <BR/><BR/>If you want to live like those across the river there, go right ahead.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32065791.post-1171780811231487682007-02-17T23:40:00.000-07:002007-02-17T23:40:00.000-07:00I'll put up with a lot as far as the comments over...I'll put up with a lot as far as the comments over at my place go - and I've seen it all. That kind of crap like soj pulled would result in that person being banned and their IP blocked. I'm not particularly big on second chances, for that matter. Comes down to wanting to make sure the space is one where folks can feel free to express whatever they want w/o fear for their safety.Don Duritohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18204140156288885474noreply@blogger.com