Take a look in the comments here.
The genesis of this shitstorm?
I had the audacity to state (back on Feb 24th) that I'd rather see an educated non-voter than an uneducated voter. [I made the same comment back in the 90s to a local, liberal radio talk show host and he used it in his promos for a week after that - not because it contained any shock value but because I was a regular caller he had interviewed in person once about human rights abuses. He respected my opinions and later became (and still is) an elected official*. Are votes important to him? Sure. But he understood exactly what I meant because we live in Conservative Hell.]
* Note to Deoliver47 whose new hobby is doing "research" about me using Google: the story I just shared will not be found online so that one's a dead end.
Anyway, here's how all of this then spiraled out of control. (You will note that I didn't say anything about anybody's race, creed, colour, religion, sexual identity or popcorn-flavour preference in the above comment).
I'd rather see neither. (6+ / 0-)See anything about race there? Nope? That's because it wasn't the issue - until some people made it THE issue. If you follow the thread, you'll see that it diverged into 2 topics which both had the same result: accusing me of being a racist.
but at least the voter is standing up and contributing to the process.
this isn't professional sports. most people don't HAVE to be mere spectators.
by mallyroyal on Thu Feb 24, 2011 at 10:27:58 AM MST
you're implying... (2+ / 0-)
...that non-voters are merely spectators and that they don't contribute anything to democracy. That is not necessarily true.
by catnip on Thu Feb 24, 2011 at 10:33:52 AM MST
I don't know how else to put how I feel (5+ / 0-)
about the American nonvoter withought degenerating into insults. truly.
by mallyroyal on Thu Feb 24, 2011 at 10:35:46 AM MST
"feel" is the key word there (2+ / 0-)
Try thinking about why some people don't vote and how they still contribute to democracy.
by catnip on Thu Feb 24, 2011 at 10:43:07 AM MST
The first divergence was made by those who insisted that people who died in wars died for the right to vote. I disagreed. I said people died for freedom - including the right not to vote.
Let me insert the bleedingly obvious here: did the protesters in Egypt and elsewhere recently die "for the right to vote"? Seems to me those Egyptians already had that right even when Mu was still the dictator. No. They died for freedom. That's a pretty simple point, don't you think? But no, when I said to dkos yanks that people died for freedom, that became an affront to African-American soldiers somehow. I'm "culturally insenstive", apparently. (Just another phrase for "racist").
The second divergence from that conversation? I made the mistake of telling mallyroyal (an AA kossack) to "think" instead of "feel". I was immediately jumped on with this:
well you know.... (6+ / 0-)Had I said anything about anybody's race? No.
I only voted for Obama because he's black.
I didn't think about his policy position just like most AA didn't. That's why he has such a high approval ratings from us unthinking AA.
I must try some of that THINKING catnip suggests, but then again being an unthinking AA is so much easier.
by sephius1 on Thu Feb 24, 2011 at 03:21:38 PM
Ironically, mallyroyal (the person I was accused of being racist against - along with all other AAs) posted this yesterday:
finally some common sense in these comments. (3+ / 0-)Did the same people accuse him of saying that AAs don't think? Of course not.
any rational person would read this from a POTUS to a former governor whose brother and father were previously POTUS.
too many kossacks allow their emotionalism to reign supreme while calling it rationale.
by mallyroyal on Sat Mar 05, 2011 at 10:50:31 AM MST
Let's fast forward through this clusterfuck:
1. Today I was accused 3 times of outing several people over at mcat's and elsewhere. Of course, the accusers didn't provide any links and one of the people I was accused of outing - slinkerwink - actually outed herself on dkos.
2. Consider this for a moment:
When you stated Sephius called you a racist (5+ / 0-)Here is my response:
which you continued to assert, you were calling him a racist.
Please - stop with the game playing.
by Deoliver47 on Sun Mar 06, 2011 at 10:06:10 AM MST
let's change the wording... (3+ / 0-)Get what's going on there now? Yes. It is that obvious.
...to take a look at your preposterous leap of logic:
When you stated Sephius called you a cat (0+ / 0-)
which you continued to assert, you were calling him a cat.
Sorry but your Ps & Qs don't add up.
by catnip on Sun Mar 06, 2011 at 10:47:48 AM MST
I'm not the first person they've done this too. Will I be the last? Stay tuned.
SO, if any of your Troll Patrol keyboard warriors want to take me on: do it here. Now. Be warned: anything goes here and nobody's going to cry for you if your feelings get hurt. The only rule here is: there are no rules.